Announcer:
Good morning everybody, and welcome to “The CPE Final Evaluation
Show!”. This morning we will attempt to enlighten you as to the
significant journey Josie has been on as part of her CPE training.
Let's start off with a bit of context. Josie, what prompted you to
take this course?
Josie:
Well, initially it was purely as a requirement for preparation for
ordination. Basically, if I want to be ordained, I have to do it! But
I had heard mysterious stories of personal growth and sleep
deprivation from previous attendees so I was pretty keen to find out
what this was all about.
Announcer:
So you're an ordination candidate. Does that mean you're hoping to
become an ordained priest?
Josie:
Yes, if all goes well I'll be ordained in February 2013. I'll start
off in a parish but hope to eventually move into a school.
Announcer:
Sounds good! Let's move on to you learning goals. I hear you
are quite a goal orientated person. How did you choose what goals you
wished to work towards?
Josie:
My first two goals I decided on very early in the course. My first
came from a certain awkwardness I felt when praying in the company of
others. Isn't awkward such an awkward word?
Announcer:
Um, yes. So that first goal, can you remind us what it was again?
Josie:
To be comfortable, confident and articulate in offering and sharing
prayer in a pastoral context.
Announcer:
I see. So where did this discomfort you felt come from?
Josie:
Well, growing up in an unchurched family I was never exposed to
prayer. And as I started to explore prayer for myself I found it
difficult to find my own voice. I was always worried I was doing it
'wrong' if I didn't seem to pray like everyone else did. So although
I was comfortable praying in a prepared manner, like at Church, I did
not have any experience in offering prayer in a more intimate,
pastoral situation.
Announcer:
But later on you felt you had achieved this goal. What changed?
Josie:
Partly practise. I mean, when you do something often enough you do
start to get used to it. And I met some lovely patients who received
my prayer with grace and thanks, for example Sally in verbatim #3.
But the main thing that helped was finding my own voice in prayer.
Announcer:
Was there someone in particular who helped you with this? (knowing
look)
Josie:
Why yes actually! Marjorie always seemed to comfortable and confident
in her prayers. As first I thought I should try and pray like she
does, because that seemed so effective. But Noela pointed out that
Marjorie was so well loved because she was so authentic, and that
finding my voice should prove
the same. So I learned to offer prayer and if this offer was taken up
to pray about what myself and the patient had been speaking about in
my own words and those of the patient. And viola! It works! I do feel
comfortable, confident and articulate in offering prayer because it
is in my voice and with my understanding.
Announcer. That's great Josie.
Josie: But wait, there's more! About the
same time I achieved this goal I also achieved the other one I set at
the same time, to become secure in identifying myself as a pastoral
carer.
Announcer: Oh?
Josie: Yeah, after a few (or maybe a few
more) weeks of training it seemed silly to deny that I was fulfilling
this role to others. When I was coming to people, in their beds or in
their homes, it was as a pastoral carer and they accepted me as such
(for example, Fred in verbatim 13). They were willing to share
intimate parts of their lives with me. To deny my identity was also
to deny their faith in me and in Christ. I came to realise that being
a PC was not about me, it was about the patients. Kinda obvious
really!
Announcer: Quite. So after you'd
fulfilled these goals, did you set more?
Josie: Of course! I find setting and
achieving goals to be very building of myself, and it is something I
will continue with. My final two goals were to be accepting of my
weaknesses, to see mistakes as opportunities for growth rather than
misfortunes; and to use my newly found reflective listening skills in
my intimate relationship as well as my professional ones.
Announcer: And how are they going?
Josie: Oh, I think these ones are going
to take a little longer. As someone with a tendency towards
perfectionism I can be quite hard on myself when I think I've stuffed
up. Doing verbatims has been really helpful with this, because I've
been able to listen, receive and give suggestions as to better
practise in ministry without any anger or shame. It's occurring to me
that a mistake can provide a learning you may not otherwise have
found! As for my listening skills... well, that's something I will
continue to work on. Practise makes perfect!
Announcer:
Indeed it does. So, moving on to your Outcomes
for basic part time CPE.
Could you articulate for us some central
themes of your religious heritage and the theological understanding
that informs your ministry?
Josie: Probably.
Pause
Josie:
Oh, you mean now? Sure. As an Anglican, a major part of my pastoral
understanding is that we live through the via media,
the middle way. We don't have a central ruling body that tells us
what we have to think and believe, and this is very important to me.
It means that even though we may have vastly different theological
beliefs and understandings, mine is no more valid or real than yours.
It means that though we may disagree, sometimes vehemently, in the
end we are all brothers and sisters in Christ and connected in and
through the Spirit in the power of God. I am comfortable and curious
about differing views – and I find that my own can change as a
result of new experiences and learnings.
Announcer: For example?
Josie:
Well, I had never considered myself to be an embodiment of Christ,
although I had professed to believe and live it. After all, in the
creed I do say that I believe in the resurrection of the body, and to
me that occurs every day in our lives as people of the Book. But it
wasn't until I started CPE and we started talking about who we are to
our patients that I saw how this reality is played out in a tangible
way. It is humbling and scary and such a profound act of worship to
be in this position – there are really no words to describe it.
Announcer:
You've moved on a bit past where we were going here Josie. Shall we
go back to outcome 2 in a moment and stick with number three, what
have you learned about yourself as a minister and person?
Josie: Okey doke! When I started CPE I
considered myself to be quite self aware, but as it happens I was
quite mistaken. In good ways as well as not so good, actually. A big
one is my relationship with my own mortality. I had thought that
after my cancer journey I was quite comfortable with the concept of
my own death, but reading a wonderful book called 'May I walk you
home?' showed me just how much I was avoiding that particular topic.
I was also forced to confront the issue of rejection and what it
means to me. What I was able to discover is that a patient can not
reject me as a person because they don't know who I am – what they
are rejecting is who they think I am, what role I am playing in their
head. When I understood this it became easier to distance myself from
feelings of resentment or grief following a rejected offering of
myself. On a more positive note, I cam into CPE thinking that I would
really struggle with handling criticism, but this has not been the
issue that I thought it was going to be. I think it is because any
criticism levelled my way really was made in love and with my own
best interest at heart, given to build me up rather than bring me
down. I found I welcomed it as it gave me an opportunity to look at
things in a different way. And I learned that if I disagreed with it,
after thought and prayer on the issue, then I didn't have to own it.
That was liberating as well.
Announcer:
You've touched on your cancer journey – can you share some other
major life events,
relationships and cultural contexts that influence personal identity
as expressed in pastoral functioning?
Josie: Yeah, sure. I was brought up in a
house that embraced difference and have worshipped in churches that
do the same, from Sudanese refugees to parents of children with
disabilities to our older citizens struggling with loneliness and
loss. This means I am comfortable in many situations, not much phases
or shocks me (yet). I have experienced mental illness in my life as
well as those around me, and addiction as well. I understand that
these issues run much deeper than can be seen or explained.
Journeying with my father in law in his final months has given me an
understanding and love for the dying. And of course having children
gives me an automatic bond with anyone who has or loves children in
their own life.
Announcer:
So, do you feel more
confident/competent in your ability to interact and communicate with
patients/parishioners?
Josie: Absolutely. When presenting my
verbatim about a woman with little sight or hearing, I discovered the
importance of observing body language for permission for physical
contact. It seems to be best not to ask too many questions, but to
mirror the other's language and/or to put an emotion to what they are
feeling, and people will often underrate their own emotions, for
example they may say 'worried' instead of terrified (CPE 16/5/12). I
am less worried about initiating a visit because the worst that can
happen is that they will refuse. That's certainly not the end of the
world! And we did some good work with Lynda about how to end a
session to.
Announcer:
You've mentioned initiating pastoral encounters. How
hard/easy was this for you? What were the situations where this was
difficult?
Josie:
The longer I have been doing PC, the easier initiating a pastoral
relationship gets. I can only offer myself, my presence and my time.
I don't have to worry about not doing enough – I am not there to
'do' anything! I am certainly not there to 'help', as the guidelines
for this evaluation seem to imply in this question.
Announcer:
Ok, we'll keep that in mind. You've already touched on receiving
feedback, saying that you found it easier than you expected. How
about offering that
feedback yourself?
Josie: That is something I struggled
with at first, I must admit. I wanted to give feedback but I was
worried I would come across too mean, so to speak. But when we
reached a point where we trusted each other, it became natural to
give feedback that I thought would help. It also became more about
the other and less about me – if I failed to offer feedback because
I was worried about how it would make me look I was doing no one any
favours.
Announcer: So you found that when you
focussed less on yourself it became easier to give and receive
critique.
Josie: Exactly. I have never been in a
small group situation like this one, and at first it felt very...
confronting. I am a naturally open person so it wasn't that I didn't
like sharing, but I did worry sometimes that I talk too much!
Announcer: You? Talk too much?
Josie: Silly, I know. But I had to
become aware of the potential for me to dominate the conversation.
Sometimes I really had to bite my tongue when I wanted to cut in or
say something but realised that I needed to allow people time to
think. I also was forced to become more comfortable with conflict. I
know that it is a necessary and constructive part of life and
relationships but it was something I needed to witness being used in
a positive way to appreciate how it could be an effective
communication tool.
Announcer: As we draw this segment to a
close, is there anything you would like to say to the other
participants in this course?
Josie: Why, yes!
Announcer:
Well, that's enough talking from you, Josie. You are way over your
word limit you know! Any final thoughts? Briefly?
Josie:
I just want to thank everyone so much for joining me on this journey.
It has been a privilege sharing it with you all, and I do strongly
feel that God has a plan for all of our lives and that we are
following it. Thanks be to God.
